recovery of non-responsive file server

Started by KenH, July 06, 2016, 02:50:29 PM

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KenH

I had been restoring the Veeam backup to the old file server every week (just as test to be sure the backup installed with no problems). The last time shortly after starting the restore process, the power was accidently shut off. When I attempted a restart it does not show anything on the monitor, and the keyboard nor mouse do not seem to have any effect. I have tried putting boot cd disks in the drive and using a USB boot drive. unplugging power supplies, etc. Nothing I have tried has enabled me to see any display on the monitor, nor can I seem to get any response from the keyboard or mouse.

This is a Dell Poweredge T410. I can not figure out how to get a response from the video, keyboard or mouse.  Any suggestions to allow me to once again gain access to this machine, or is it just a large black boat anchor?
John 'Ken' Hughes

Jeff Golas

Are you getting any beeps/error messages out of it at all? Sounds like its not even posting. Sometimes this is just as simple as pulling the power cord and letting the power supply fully die out for a bit, then plug it back in and try again, OR perhaps the power supply or something else actually died in it.
Jeff Golas
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Jeff Zylstra

Yep.  I've had to hold down the power button for 30 seconds while the computer was unplugged to wipe out any residual power to the machine.  I've also had to go back to factory default settings on BIOS once.  This last year has not been a good one for computers or phones around here.  Obviously you'll need to be careful with the BIOS reset, but power can do some wild and wicked stuff to computers. 
"We hang the petty thieves, and appoint the great ones to public office"  -  Aesop

Joshua Conner

Does it have idrac that can be really helpful in diagnosing dell servers that seem dead. 

I just had my r710 die from lighting it killed the nic and it wouldn't post.  luckily swapping motherboards to get it back to life was a 5min job. 
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KenH

Thanks for all the responses.
1) no beeps at all. Couldn't say about error messages without video. It does not seem to be posting at all.
2) I have unplugged both power supplies for 15 minutes, but still no joy.
3) I did not do any installation of the idrac before the server was originally installed. Is there any way to use this without already having it installed?
John 'Ken' Hughes

Mark

iDRAC default login is username "root" password "calvin" without quotes, of course.  If the iDRAC is lit up, you should be able to access that even with the server turned off.
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Joshua Conner

you said you were using veeam can you do a restore to a vm and fire it up in a virtual environment on another server?
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Jeff Zylstra

Sounds silly, but have you pulled the battery out of the motherboard yet?  I don't know if a dead battery could cause something like this if memory was sustained by the AC power, but with computers anything is possible.   It's probably time to replace the motherboard battery anyways. 

If you get it up and running again, Dell's Open Manage might be helpful in the future, perhaps as a diagnostic aid and also for administering the server as it is fairly comprehensive. 
"We hang the petty thieves, and appoint the great ones to public office"  -  Aesop

KenH

Sorry for the sporadic updates I am only in this office Mon & Wed. I have confirming I have IDRAC6 6xpress card installed in the server. However I am unclear how to access with no video output. I do not have a separate RJ 45 marked for the IDRAC. It is currently connected to the network, but I get no response trying to ping the old IP nor the 192,168.0.120 (which was listed as the default).

I do have green power lights. the front LCD display lights but shows no error, other than intrusion alert when the case is open, etc.
John 'Ken' Hughes

Jeff Golas

Just on a whim, have you tried a different monitor? Does the server look/act like its booting or doing anything outside of not having any video?
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Mark

You should be able to check/set the iDRAC IP address from the front panel on the server using the LCD screen.  Although whit the Express card, I do not believe you get a full remote console.
Mark Piontek, MBA
Director of Information Systems
BS in Information Systems Security

Jeff Golas

FYI, if the IP really is a 192.168.0.x subnet, you would have to set your computer to another address on that subnet in order to talk to it. So for example, if you think the drac's IP address is 192.168.0.1, and if your computer is normally 192.168.1.10, you should try manually changing the IP address of YOUR COMPUTER to 192.168.0.20, or where the 20 is, anything besides 0 or 1.
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Jeff Zylstra

Quote from: Jeff Golas on July 11, 2016, 03:24:33 PM
FYI, if the IP really is a 192.168.0.x subnet, you would have to set your computer to another address on that subnet in order to talk to it. So for example, if you think the drac's IP address is 192.168.0.1, and if your computer is normally 192.168.1.10, you should try manually changing the IP address of YOUR COMPUTER to 192.168.0.20, or where the 20 is, anything besides 0 or 1.

And once you're sure you are on the same subnet, maybe run the Angry IP scanner or something like to scan for all IP addresses, since you're really not sure about the setup of the IDRAC.  Can't hurt. 
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Joshua Conner

It should show the idrac MAC address on a tag on the front of the pc so run a scanner and look for that mac address.  Normally idrac has its own rj45 plug.
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Jeff Golas

Quote from: Joshua Conner on July 12, 2016, 10:34:42 AM
It should show the idrac MAC address on a tag on the front of the pc so run a scanner and look for that mac address.  Normally idrac has its own rj45 plug.

Newer ones or "idrac express" I believe share one of the nic ports with the idrac.
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