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General Topics => Helpline => Topic started by: Alice Mooney on September 01, 2020, 02:07:35 PM

Poll
Question: What policy type do you use when adding Hagerty policies to your management system?
Option 1: Use Antique for all votes: 1
Option 2: Use Collector Car for all votes: 0
Option 3: Look at policy docs / company site to determine policy type votes: 1
Option 4: Use something else (please add to comments) votes: 1
Title: Hagerty - Antique vs Collector Policy Types
Post by: Alice Mooney on September 01, 2020, 02:07:35 PM
Here they are selecting Antique for all Hagerty policies because "that's what we've always done". I tried to get them to use Collector Car right after our conversion to Epic and no one wants to change. No one looks at the policy docs (because the agents are not required to provide them) and no one looks at the company site (they are just too busy).
Any other suggestion are welcome.
Title: Re: Hagerty - Antique vs Collector Policy Types
Post by: Jim Jensen on September 01, 2020, 03:16:13 PM
There usually are underwriting differences - antique is for older cars (typically a minimum age), while collector allows newer cars that have limited use. There can also be differences on which to choose depending or whether it's original or modified (e.g. modernized restoration). The most difficult are pretty new cars that low production numbers, like a European Sport car (e.g. Astin Martin).
Title: Re: Hagerty - Antique vs Collector Policy Types
Post by: Alice Mooney on September 08, 2020, 11:43:15 AM
Thank you Jim for your input. I did go to a site that gave the definitions of antique/collector/vintage and gave to my manager. Still waiting for a response on that.

Looks like not many in our group sell Hagerty. Was hoping for more responses.
Title: Re: Hagerty - Antique vs Collector Policy Types
Post by: Bob on September 08, 2020, 12:06:20 PM
We use Hagerty, JC Taylor and American Collectors.
Title: Re: Hagerty - Antique vs Collector Policy Types
Post by: Jim Jensen on September 10, 2020, 09:23:11 AM
We usually use JC Taylor, but Safeco has an antique classification too. Not so much for amending coverage, but premiums are reduced greatly.
Title: Re: Hagerty - Antique vs Collector Policy Types
Post by: DebAmstutz on September 11, 2020, 02:48:08 PM
We might have a couple of Hagerty policies, but mostly JC Taylor.
Title: Re: Hagerty - Antique vs Collector Policy Types
Post by: Alice Mooney on September 17, 2020, 01:22:50 PM
Thanks all for your replies. I was looking more for what policy type you use more than which carriers you write with.
Still struggling here and getting pushback.
Title: Re: Hagerty - Antique vs Collector Policy Types
Post by: Sherry Burrell on September 18, 2020, 10:10:04 AM
We don't use different policy types for those auto policies.  In Epic, we will change policy description, but no separate policy type.
Title: Re: Hagerty - Antique vs Collector Policy Types
Post by: Jim Jensen on September 18, 2020, 11:50:05 AM
The biggest thing is paying attention to the settlment method for physical damage. Stated Value on the dec doesn't always mean they will receive that amount - just like scheduled items in HO Inland Marine.
Title: Re: Hagerty - Antique vs Collector Policy Types
Post by: Ric on September 22, 2020, 04:05:01 PM
Quote from: Alice Mooney on September 17, 2020, 01:22:50 PM
Thanks all for your replies. I was looking more for what policy type you use more than which carriers you write with.
Still struggling here and getting pushback.

Alice, we simply use AUTO and put a note if necessary on the policy screen.

When reporting it could be a matter of pulling AUTO with that particular carrier unless the carrier sells regular and specialty auto, which is not usually the case when having to track things like this

HTH
Title: Re: Hagerty - Antique vs Collector Policy Types
Post by: DebAmstutz on September 23, 2020, 11:42:26 AM
Everything that is a personal auto policy is AUTO - we can tell by the company code if it's "special."  We don't code for antique autos.  When I come across them I will enter "31 Ford" or whatever year/make it is in the billing screen note field. 
Title: Re: Hagerty - Antique vs Collector Policy Types
Post by: Jim Jensen on September 23, 2020, 12:03:04 PM
Now that I realize the real question you were asking  ::).....we don't differentiate the policy type either. I view it similar to HO3 versus HO5 in homeowners - a coverage notation and premium different rather than type of policy. We typically recognize ours quickly because of the carriers/brokers involved on the billing screen. However, if you want to track them specifically, run reports, send communications specific to those policies, then a different policy type would help. Otherwise, I don't see a tremendous value in it, unless you have difficulty with untrained people that can't differentiate coverages in the data sent in the policy.
Title: Re: Hagerty - Antique vs Collector Policy Types
Post by: Mark on September 25, 2020, 08:38:34 AM
Quote from: Jim Jensen on September 23, 2020, 12:03:04 PM
... However, if you want to track them specifically, run reports, send communications specific to those policies, then a different policy type would help.

Or Agency Defined Category.  These can be done at the line level.
Title: Re: Hagerty - Antique vs Collector Policy Types
Post by: Alice Mooney on September 25, 2020, 09:29:12 AM
Thanks everyone for your feedback. Policy types have been a challenge for us since conversion. It used to be such a simple thing, but now there are so many without a clear path to take. We didn't receive definitions of these unconventional policy types and when we were supposed to use them. That person has moved on to a different position, so there they sit.
We'll use them as we always have and see what happens down the road.
Thanks again.