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Title: Small-form factor vs. tower
Post by: cjprice on December 13, 2011, 12:09:06 PM
Anyone out there using HP small-form factor PCs? Currently we're using HP z200 workstations (tower), and were considering purchasing small-form factor PCs this year to replace our next batch of machines.

I've gotten a quote from our HP reseller for both the tower & SFF - pricing difference is only a matter of $20 or so, and the only real difference in specs is a 240watt PSU in the SFF vs. a 400watt in the tower. Does anyone have anything good, bad, or otherwise to say about small-form factor PCs?

Thanks,

Casey
Title: Re: Small-form factor vs. tower
Post by: Jeff Zylstra on December 13, 2011, 12:50:18 PM
I don't have them, but I'm friends with the IT guy next door and he has a few of the Dell small form factor machines.  He's had a lot of issues with heat and power supplies.  Don't know if that is a common characteristic of these machines or not, but I thought I would mention it. 

Since I usually recycle some of my machines as home machines and also a contingency plan for limited agency operations in the event of a major disaster, I prefer something that is both expandable with cards, and also uses more common components in case I need something later.  But that's just me.
Title: Re: Small-form factor vs. tower
Post by: Ian Blundell on December 13, 2011, 12:53:45 PM
If you expect to need to add a card to the computer after you buy it then the samll form factor one will probably need a half height card which is usually more expensive and less available.  This may have been an issue for us a few years ago when I was adding a second video card but I've been buying dual video computers for a few years now.
Title: Re: Small-form factor vs. tower
Post by: Bob on December 13, 2011, 01:00:54 PM
Did a few never again.  They don't last as long..  Too much heat not enough air movement.  Can't add anything.  Like Bic lighter, toss when done.   Would only do again if everything was solid state.  Just not there yet. 
Title: Re: Small-form factor vs. tower
Post by: Jeff Zylstra on December 13, 2011, 01:06:22 PM
Quote from: Bob Connor on December 13, 2011, 01:00:54 PM
Did a few never again.  They don't last as long..  Too much heat not enough air movement.  Can't add anything.  Like Bic lighter, toss when done.   Would only do again if everything was solid state.  Just not there yet.

Solid state.  Interesting concept.  Do you mean just the hard drive, or the whole machine?
Title: Re: Small-form factor vs. tower
Post by: cjprice on December 13, 2011, 01:09:38 PM
Quote from: Jeff Zylstra on December 13, 2011, 01:06:22 PM
Solid state.  Interesting concept.  Do you mean just the hard drive, or the whole machine?

Wouldn't that be nice!
Title: Re: Small-form factor vs. tower
Post by: Sherry Burrell on December 13, 2011, 03:29:45 PM
I had the small form factor from Dell and never again - as several mentioned, many issues with heat, motherboards fried on every one of them eventually.
Title: Re: Small-form factor vs. tower
Post by: Bloody Jack Kidd on December 13, 2011, 04:09:07 PM
all of our desktops these days are SFF Dells.  I think it's for space savings mostly.
Title: Re: Small-form factor vs. tower
Post by: Mark Rowe on December 14, 2011, 11:36:04 AM
What they said. Never again.
Title: Re: Small-form factor vs. tower
Post by: Jeff Golas on December 14, 2011, 03:05:30 PM
I use the mid-size form factor (not the smallest but not full size towers either...kinda skinny towers), and so far so good, but I do notice that they have quite a buildup of dust on them at this point even a year in, vs the towers that are 4 yrs old.

In the past in fixing point of sale PCs and what not those small form factor PCs do have a rough time with heat, especially from the hard drive and power supply.

I've been looking into a couple small form factor PCs for our conference rooms, they wont be used 24/7 so lifespan should be ok. I really wanted the Dell Inspiron Zino's but they discontinued them!
Title: Re: Small-form factor vs. tower
Post by: Billy Welsh on December 14, 2011, 03:34:10 PM
Our last round was either SFF or mid-size like Jeff's.  I just reviewed specs from contract techs and did not question their choice of ff.  If they start having heat issues I'll get after them for the choice.  Only been running them for a few months.