EPIC email a ttachment issue?

Started by Tom Fisher, May 04, 2020, 04:12:23 PM

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Tom Fisher

I noticed in 'the other forums' there is a thread about Epic not taking drag and drop email attachments.  MS update apparently broke it and as is often the case, A$ wasn't on top of it.

Anyone know if this is legit and/or what version of Office broke it?
Tom Fisher
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Heather Reetz

I don't know what broke it, but I know that two of our three terminal servers have this issue today.  I was going to have the servers rebooted tonight to see if that would fix it.  I have an open case with A$.
Heather Reetz
Yes, there really is a Kalamazoo!
50ish Users; mostly remote, Epic Cloud, 2016 Servers, Terminal Services w/RDP, 3CX VOIP, O365/E3, HP Wyse & Dell Thin Clients, iPads, iPhones

Tom Fisher

Well my guess is that A$ is going to tell you the work around:  drag to desktop or other folder, and attach from there.

I'm curious what version broke it because they don't seem to be so quick to fix.  Can you tell me what version the two problem servers and the one non-problem server are on with Office?
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Mark

I just hear about this from Kenny.  We're not having the issue here as far as I know.  I have no updates pending, and I was able to drag out of Outlook 2016 and attach to Epic.  We're not on an O365 version of Outlook though.
Mark Piontek, MBA
Director of Information Systems
BS in Information Systems Security

Heather Reetz

I already have people working around for today.

Problem servers are automatically updated and on Version 2004 (Build 16.0.12730.20144)

The one still working has updates ready to install and is on Version 2003 (Build 1264.20466)

Both Click to Run
Heather Reetz
Yes, there really is a Kalamazoo!
50ish Users; mostly remote, Epic Cloud, 2016 Servers, Terminal Services w/RDP, 3CX VOIP, O365/E3, HP Wyse & Dell Thin Clients, iPads, iPhones

Tom Fisher

Heather, have you tried rolling back one of the 2004's?
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Heather Reetz

The third one updated itself last night.  We're rolling back all three tonight.
Heather Reetz
Yes, there really is a Kalamazoo!
50ish Users; mostly remote, Epic Cloud, 2016 Servers, Terminal Services w/RDP, 3CX VOIP, O365/E3, HP Wyse & Dell Thin Clients, iPads, iPhones

Mark

I've seen some people on the other forum say they are experiencing this on Outlook 2016 (non-365) so maybe I wont be immune.  No one has complained to me yet.
Mark Piontek, MBA
Director of Information Systems
BS in Information Systems Security

Jeff Golas

It may be that another update comes quickly (maybe...ish) as there's other issues besides just the Applied one. I saw in Reddit that some people are having search issues again as well as other stuff going on. I was really under the impression microsoft was stopping functional changes in lieu of security-only fixes to keep things reliable...its obvious they haven't. (Im in a mood today lol)
Jeff Golas
Johnson, Kendall & Johnson, Inc. :: Newtown, PA
Epic Online w/CSR24
http://www.jkj.com

Joshua Conner

#9
Yes my search broke on mine. 

I am on the latest version and my drag and drop still works though.

Joshua Conner
Conner Insurance
Tam 2014 R2
Epic online with CSR24 and Salesforce Integration
39 Employees
Former Vice President Indiana Applied User Group
Webmaster http://www.appliedusergroup.com
Blog http://mylifewithtam.blogspot.com

Heather Reetz

Another update came quickly, but didn't solve the issue.  Now we'll have to roll back two.
Heather Reetz
Yes, there really is a Kalamazoo!
50ish Users; mostly remote, Epic Cloud, 2016 Servers, Terminal Services w/RDP, 3CX VOIP, O365/E3, HP Wyse & Dell Thin Clients, iPads, iPhones

Heather Reetz

Quote from: Joshua Conner on May 06, 2020, 11:40:26 AM
Yes my search broke on mine. 

I am on the latest version and my drag and drop still works though.

To be clear, it's only dragging an attachment from an email into Epic.  If you drag the whole email, or a file from anywhere else, it still works.  You are still able to drag and drop an email attachment into Epic?
Heather Reetz
Yes, there really is a Kalamazoo!
50ish Users; mostly remote, Epic Cloud, 2016 Servers, Terminal Services w/RDP, 3CX VOIP, O365/E3, HP Wyse & Dell Thin Clients, iPads, iPhones

Mark

Quote from: Heather Reetz on May 06, 2020, 01:44:31 PM
... You are still able to drag and drop an email attachment into Epic?

Are you asking, or telling?  Because now I'm confused.  :o
Mark Piontek, MBA
Director of Information Systems
BS in Information Systems Security

Ric

BTW: This is happening in TAM 2017 with Office 2016 M$365
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Heather Reetz

I was trying to clarify what the issue is for us and see if Joshua is still able to drag and drop if it's an email attachment.
Heather Reetz
Yes, there really is a Kalamazoo!
50ish Users; mostly remote, Epic Cloud, 2016 Servers, Terminal Services w/RDP, 3CX VOIP, O365/E3, HP Wyse & Dell Thin Clients, iPads, iPhones

Joshua Conner

Now that you clarified I cannot drag the attachment out of an email into epic.   It shows the + when I drop it on epic but does nothing. 

I can drag the email with attachment and it works just fine.
I can drag from desktop and that also works fine. 

I am on O365 32bit.
Joshua Conner
Conner Insurance
Tam 2014 R2
Epic online with CSR24 and Salesforce Integration
39 Employees
Former Vice President Indiana Applied User Group
Webmaster http://www.appliedusergroup.com
Blog http://mylifewithtam.blogspot.com

Heather Reetz

OK, that's the same then.  We are also on 365/2016 32 bit.
Heather Reetz
Yes, there really is a Kalamazoo!
50ish Users; mostly remote, Epic Cloud, 2016 Servers, Terminal Services w/RDP, 3CX VOIP, O365/E3, HP Wyse & Dell Thin Clients, iPads, iPhones

Heather Reetz

Most recent from Applied is below.  We are going to hold off on rolling back, even though we'll have to work around for now.  Of course, they have no time estimate on when the fix will come.

I do believe it is a Microsoft update that is causing your issue.  There is a PMR 388067 that has been added for this issue, and I have added your Agency to that PMR, at this time there are over a hundred agencies add to it.  It was a Microsoft update at was install on 5-4-20

Thus far the following build/versions have been reported as Problematic
Office Version 2004 build 12730.20236 CTR- 32 bit
Office 365 16.0.12730.20150 MSO
Office 365 16.0.12730.20144 MSO
Office 2016 MSO (16.0.12730.20144) 32bit
Office Home and Business 2010  14.0.7248.5000 (32-bit)
Heather Reetz
Yes, there really is a Kalamazoo!
50ish Users; mostly remote, Epic Cloud, 2016 Servers, Terminal Services w/RDP, 3CX VOIP, O365/E3, HP Wyse & Dell Thin Clients, iPads, iPhones

Joshua Conner

I have another thing to add to this list.

Brand new laptop (Lenovo x1c)
Brand new copy of Office home and business 2019. 

Outlook wont load for the first time says it can not connect to exchange server.

I have tried every trick it must be outlook.
Password is correct laptop is on lan with server.  I have deleted profile and gone through setup again.  I have done a repair on office long and short.  I have done safe mode for outlook. 
Joshua Conner
Conner Insurance
Tam 2014 R2
Epic online with CSR24 and Salesforce Integration
39 Employees
Former Vice President Indiana Applied User Group
Webmaster http://www.appliedusergroup.com
Blog http://mylifewithtam.blogspot.com

Mark

Looks like this may be fixed in Epic 2020.  We are getting 2020 next weekend here.

Quote from: Applied Systems Release NotesYou can drag and drop email attachments from Microsoft Outlook into Applied Epic. Previously, drag and drop functionality was unavailablefollowing a Microsoft Office 365 update.PMR 388067
Mark Piontek, MBA
Director of Information Systems
BS in Information Systems Security

Charlie Charbonneau

Late to the party, but just for FYI this is also happening on TAM inhouse.   Dragging an attachment from outlook across TAM (not even dropping it) to another email will lock up Outlook and TAM until TAM is force closed...

Our workaround is to not do that!
Charlie Charbonneau
GBMB Insurance
San Antonio TX.

EPIC 2022, CSR24, Windows 2012 Hyper-V & 2016, Win10/11 Pro Stations, Sophos Anti-Virus.
.                .                 ..              ...

Charlie Charbonneau

Quote from: Joshua Conner on May 13, 2020, 11:35:26 AM
I have another thing to add to this list.

Brand new laptop (Lenovo x1c)
Brand new copy of Office home and business 2019. 

Outlook wont load for the first time says it can not connect to exchange server.

I have tried every trick it must be outlook.
Password is correct laptop is on lan with server.  I have deleted profile and gone through setup again.  I have done a repair on office long and short.  I have done safe mode for outlook.

Did you ever figure this out?  I have the same issue.  Upgraded an old station from win 7 to 10, installed office 2013 H&B and Outlook is refusing to talk to Exchange! 
Charlie Charbonneau
GBMB Insurance
San Antonio TX.

EPIC 2022, CSR24, Windows 2012 Hyper-V & 2016, Win10/11 Pro Stations, Sophos Anti-Virus.
.                .                 ..              ...

Heather Reetz

Quote from: Mark on May 29, 2020, 10:23:15 AM
Looks like this may be fixed in Epic 2020.  We are getting 2020 next weekend here.

Quote from: Applied Systems Release NotesYou can drag and drop email attachments from Microsoft Outlook into Applied Epic. Previously, drag and drop functionality was unavailablefollowing a Microsoft Office 365 update.PMR 388067

Yes, they say it will be fixed with 2020, and we are also getting it next weekend.
Heather Reetz
Yes, there really is a Kalamazoo!
50ish Users; mostly remote, Epic Cloud, 2016 Servers, Terminal Services w/RDP, 3CX VOIP, O365/E3, HP Wyse & Dell Thin Clients, iPads, iPhones

Joshua Conner

Quote from: Charlie Charbonneau on May 29, 2020, 10:54:57 AM
Quote from: Joshua Conner on May 13, 2020, 11:35:26 AM
I have another thing to add to this list.

Brand new laptop (Lenovo x1c)
Brand new copy of Office home and business 2019. 

Outlook wont load for the first time says it can not connect to exchange server.

I have tried every trick it must be outlook.
Password is correct laptop is on lan with server.  I have deleted profile and gone through setup again.  I have done a repair on office long and short.  I have done safe mode for outlook.

Did you ever figure this out?  I have the same issue.  Upgraded an old station from win 7 to 10, installed office 2013 H&B and Outlook is refusing to talk to Exchange!

No I didnt figure it out but the station finally did load and do an inital sync after days of refusing to.   It still seems to have connection issues as well.
Joshua Conner
Conner Insurance
Tam 2014 R2
Epic online with CSR24 and Salesforce Integration
39 Employees
Former Vice President Indiana Applied User Group
Webmaster http://www.appliedusergroup.com
Blog http://mylifewithtam.blogspot.com

Jeff Golas

Is the time and date set properly? All Microsoft and Lenovo updates up to date? All Office updates installed?

Some things that have really changed over the last few months years: TLS 1.2, modern auth, etc.
Jeff Golas
Johnson, Kendall & Johnson, Inc. :: Newtown, PA
Epic Online w/CSR24
http://www.jkj.com

Joshua Conner

yes the laptop was completely up to date on all updates. 
Joshua Conner
Conner Insurance
Tam 2014 R2
Epic online with CSR24 and Salesforce Integration
39 Employees
Former Vice President Indiana Applied User Group
Webmaster http://www.appliedusergroup.com
Blog http://mylifewithtam.blogspot.com

Jeff Golas

In the little Outlook icon next to the clock, you can right-click on it and select "show network connectivity changes", that may clue you in as to what's going on. Could be an autodiscovery issue, or a root cert issue as I've heard they've been an issue lately (not with Office per se).
Jeff Golas
Johnson, Kendall & Johnson, Inc. :: Newtown, PA
Epic Online w/CSR24
http://www.jkj.com