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Re: Office365 and TAM ONline
« Reply #15 on: August 13, 2018, 06:17:39 pm »
I didn't mean to cause more confusion..  Our TS Corruptions were actual profiles.  At least 1-2 a month.  Got old making new ones copying contents over.  Since moving off TS, not 1 corrupted profile in 3 yrs.  Never could find a pattern.  Only thing shared was TS and again since gone, 3 yrs not a single issue.  Always started with mail and didn't start until we went too Office 365 E1 plan (outlook only).  When TS removed because felt not needed with all this desktop cloud computing, not happened again.  Very little happens.   If you're on hosted email, hosted EPIC 75% there why use TS.  Can still have workstations joined domain, still enforce GPO for control.   TS was solution for in house TAM and sharing with other locations.  Without in house data, more efficient and less expensive to do without ts.  What we've done and with Kaseya, I can address any desktop issue which is rare or none.
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Re: Office365 and TAM ONline
« Reply #16 on: August 13, 2018, 06:54:17 pm »
I know what the ost is, and that's exactly why I don't use it. Of course I'm on prem, though.
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Re: Office365 and TAM ONline
« Reply #17 on: August 14, 2018, 11:42:57 am »
I didn't mean to cause more confusion..  Our TS Corruptions were actual profiles.  At least 1-2 a month.  Got old making new ones copying contents over.  Since moving off TS, not 1 corrupted profile in 3 yrs.  Never could find a pattern.  Only thing shared was TS and again since gone, 3 yrs not a single issue.  Always started with mail and didn't start until we went too Office 365 E1 plan (outlook only).  When TS removed because felt not needed with all this desktop cloud computing, not happened again.  Very little happens.   If you're on hosted email, hosted EPIC 75% there why use TS.  Can still have workstations joined domain, still enforce GPO for control.   TS was solution for in house TAM and sharing with other locations.  Without in house data, more efficient and less expensive to do without ts.  What we've done and with Kaseya, I can address any desktop issue which is rare or none.

I had similiar issues Bob - I think TS is more or less a thing of the past as opposed to desktop over IP now, which instead of virtualizing just the one user experience, it practically runs an entire OS for one user so completely seperate user space.
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Re: Office365 and TAM ONline
« Reply #18 on: August 14, 2018, 11:45:51 am »
I had similiar issues Bob - I think TS is more or less a thing of the past as opposed to desktop over IP now, which instead of virtualizing just the one user experience, it practically runs an entire OS for one user so completely seperate user space.

Pricey though.  You can get these in the cloud, too.  But just as pricey as rolling it yourself.
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Re: Office365 and TAM ONline
« Reply #19 on: August 14, 2018, 11:55:21 am »
A little yes...but compared to ordering a server, maintaining it, patching it, getting AV and security fixes, etc etc etc, when I can go File > New > Desktop (enter a few settings), and by the time I would have finished the phone call to order the server, I have a desktop booted and ready to go based on an image I created.
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Re: Office365 and TAM ONline
« Reply #20 on: August 14, 2018, 11:56:59 am »
A little yes...but compared to ordering a server, maintaining it, patching it, getting AV and security fixes, etc etc etc, when I can go File > New > Desktop (enter a few settings), and by the time I would have finished the phone call to order the server, I have a desktop booted and ready to go based on an image I created.

Oh - definitely worth the premium if it fits in your budget.  I run numbers every year and I can't make it make sense.
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Re: Office365 and TAM ONline
« Reply #21 on: August 14, 2018, 12:04:04 pm »
The bigger part here is that given a DR scenerio, we lose power just often enough that it's a problem keeping infrastructure running here. The cost of installing a decent generator in compliance with the township (putting it at the back of the building, full seperate power feed to the FRONT, disconnect, installation, etc etc) would be nearly 6 figures, so that automatically means that other means are in order.
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Re: Office365 and TAM ONline
« Reply #22 on: August 14, 2018, 01:40:01 pm »
Perfect candidate then. Different budget requirements.
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Re: Office365 and TAM ONline
« Reply #23 on: August 14, 2018, 01:52:33 pm »
Not sure if I mentioned it before, but we also have one user that is on a virtual desktop and has the same problem. 
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Re: Office365 and TAM ONline
« Reply #24 on: August 14, 2018, 04:27:30 pm »
Not sure if I mentioned it before, but we also have one user that is on a virtual desktop and has the same problem.

If you're referring to the Outlook crashes, it happens to us on brand new freshly imaged laptops, but moreso on older laptops usually running Windows 8 and Office 2013.
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Re: Office365 and TAM ONline
« Reply #25 on: August 24, 2018, 12:40:42 pm »
So can someone tell me what email client is provided in the TAMOnline environment?   ...and is the license for that provided by AS or the agency?
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Re: Office365 and TAM ONline
« Reply #26 on: August 24, 2018, 02:32:04 pm »

I do believe it's outlook 2013, and it's provided by AS.


So can someone tell me what email client is provided in the TAMOnline environment?   ...and is the license for that provided by AS or the agency?

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« Reply #27 on: August 24, 2018, 02:51:04 pm »
Thanks Nick... follow up Q if anyone knows to prevent me from contacting AS lol ... can the client go in and change those outlook email settings (say if they changed email providers?) or does A$ have to do that?  im not sure how locked down they keep things on that environment.
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Re: Office365 and TAM ONline
« Reply #28 on: August 27, 2018, 01:40:17 pm »

I do believe it's outlook 2013, and it's provided by AS.


So can someone tell me what email client is provided in the TAMOnline environment?   ...and is the license for that provided by AS or the agency?

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Re: Office365 and TAM ONline
« Reply #29 on: August 27, 2018, 01:40:34 pm »

I do believe it's outlook 2013, and it's provided by AS.


So can someone tell me what email client is provided in the TAMOnline environment?   ...and is the license for that provided by AS or the agency?
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