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Offline Heather Reetz

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O365 Message Encryption
« on: May 02, 2018, 01:04:33 pm »
Anyone using this?

https://products.office.com/en-us/exchange/office-365-message-encryption

Love it?  Hate it?  Any issues?

It's already included in our licenses and we want to dump our current encryption service.
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Re: O365 Message Encryption
« Reply #1 on: May 02, 2018, 01:09:01 pm »
Heh exact same topic came up on my CIAB forum a couple days ago. They (Microsoft) changed some things about it at the Ignite conference last year; it used to be you had to create a Microsoft account, etc to retrieve an email and people hated it. Now they provide a one-time pin so you can retrieve an email.

What service are you using now? I'm on Zix and considering doing the same.
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Re: O365 Message Encryption
« Reply #2 on: May 02, 2018, 01:34:00 pm »
Keep in mind that you have to be on an E3 plan or better for this.  I always recommend E3 but it seems like most agencies, especially smaller ones, tend to be on Business Premium plans.
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Re: O365 Message Encryption
« Reply #3 on: May 02, 2018, 03:21:42 pm »
We have E3.

Currently using SenditCertified.

We've had a little trouble getting it configured and I'm wondering if it has to do with keeping our AD local.  M$ seems to be pushing to have everything on their servers to make everything you paid for work properly.
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Re: O365 Message Encryption
« Reply #4 on: May 02, 2018, 04:58:04 pm »
We have E3.

Currently using SenditCertified.

We've had a little trouble getting it configured and I'm wondering if it has to do with keeping our AD local.  M$ seems to be pushing to have everything on their servers to make everything you paid for work properly.

Do you have Dirsync enabled?
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Re: O365 Message Encryption
« Reply #5 on: May 03, 2018, 08:54:51 am »
Yes.
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Re: O365 Message Encryption
« Reply #6 on: May 03, 2018, 03:39:51 pm »
I'm watching this thread with much interest  ::)

Is O365 Message Encryption HIPAA / Privacy compliant?

Thanx.

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Re: O365 Message Encryption
« Reply #7 on: May 03, 2018, 03:59:15 pm »
I find the need for "HIPAA" compliance to be  joke since the govt and any internet hack can get info anytime they want to and can and do make it public.........
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Re: O365 Message Encryption
« Reply #8 on: May 03, 2018, 04:03:01 pm »
I find the need for "HIPAA" compliance to be  joke since the govt and any internet hack can get info anytime they want to and can and do make it public.........

My irony thought with it is that I go on Facebook and everybody puts every detail about every, friggin, 32 syllable gory medical term they've had to have done, including colonoscopies.
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Re: O365 Message Encryption
« Reply #9 on: May 03, 2018, 04:26:07 pm »

Is O365 Message Encryption HIPAA / Privacy compliant?



Yes.
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Re: O365 Message Encryption
« Reply #10 on: May 03, 2018, 04:29:43 pm »
I'm still trying to figure out how a non-politician who is admitted to the hospital and placed in a "semi-private" room gets any privacy whatsoever???  When the doc/nurse comes in to discuss your case in excruciating detail, there is no minion covering the ears of your "roommate" or their visitors, and they are not wheeled out of the room either.


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Re: O365 Message Encryption
« Reply #11 on: May 03, 2018, 05:01:09 pm »
Oh, this has been the grand excuse to build new hospitals or wings with only private rooms, then convert any old semi-private rooms to singles and charge you twice what they did for a semi-private room. Then since they don't have any semi-private rooms, the insurance has to pay the full fare for the private room (not that enjoyed semi-private rooms, but they weren't always terrible).


I'm still trying to figure out how a non-politician who is admitted to the hospital and placed in a "semi-private" room gets any privacy whatsoever???  When the doc/nurse comes in to discuss your case in excruciating detail, there is no minion covering the ears of your "roommate" or their visitors, and they are not wheeled out of the room either.


I guess hospitals are exempt from HIPAA?

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Re: O365 Message Encryption
« Reply #12 on: May 04, 2018, 09:16:42 am »

Is O365 Message Encryption HIPAA / Privacy compliant?



Yes.

thank you Heather!

our email encryption is coming up for renewal.  I need to give O365 strong consideration
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Re: O365 Message Encryption
« Reply #13 on: May 15, 2018, 09:37:36 am »
Ahhh now there's this:  S/mime and PGP have some serious issues

https://www.wired.com/story/efail-encrypted-email-flaw-pgp-smime/
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Re: O365 Message Encryption
« Reply #14 on: July 17, 2018, 01:15:22 pm »
Latest frustration / complaint about M$ and their products having limitations that they just shouldn't have.  We did not renew SendItCertified.  Turns out, if you use the message encryption, you lose the ability to get a read receipt.  Not that it tells you that anywhere.  You can set the message to request the receipt, you just won't get it.

The closest you can get is to request a delivery receipt.  Then you'll get the below.  Our Benefits group used to get a read receipt from SendItCertified for enrollments and they are very concerned about this.  We may have to go back to paying for another service now.  This trend of putting out products that are incomplete and sort of kind of patching only certain things eventually is getting out of hand...  Kind of like Applied... Oops, was that out loud?

Delivery to these recipients or groups is complete, but no delivery notification was sent by the destination server:

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