New computers - Windows 7 Pro 32 bit

[Marie (Zionkowski) Gozikowski]

We need 2 new desktops, but 32 bit Win 7 Pro is very hard to find.  Has anyone had any luck with Tam 10.8 and 64 bit Win 7?

[Bob]

Is there reason you don't want to update TAM to 11.x or 12.x then won't matter?   There were some tricks to make work back in 10.x and I think but can't recall anymore it required changing the app that launches for TAM from what is is now.  That would allow it for most part but still struggled in some accounting areas.

TAM updates now are so easy and painless.   I don't even come in to do them.  Run them from home.   Then I just add a line to login script so users workstations get updated.  Might have 1 or 2 hang Monday morning, but lot less work and bouncing around..

I just think it would be quicker and easier to update TAM to at least version 11.x then can use what ever you like for workstation.

[Marie (Zionkowski) Gozikowski]

Yep, that is what I decided to do after looking into it more.... glad to hear the upgrade is
fairly painless.  Just one more thing to add to the list!

Thanks for the reply :-)

[Jeff Zylstra]

I was on 10.7 until a week ago, and just bought 3 new Windows 7, 64 bit machines.  The 16 bit DOS app that opens along with Homebase and keeps track of which applications are still open in TAM (forget what it's called), can't run in Windows 64 bit because it does not support 16 bit apps. 

I agree with Bob.  You should check out newer versions of TAM. 

[Jeff Zylstra]

Before I forget, you have to turn off UAC on Windows 7-32 machines before running the version 11 upgrade.  I also had an error with the 12.0 update, but downloading a fresh copy of the file fixed that.  I would wait to download the update files until right before you do the upgrade.

[Mark]

I was on 10.7 until a week ago, and just bought 3 new Windows 7, 64 bit machines.  The 16 bit DOS app that opens along with Homebase and keeps track of which applications are still open in TAM (forget what it's called), can't run in Windows 64 bit because it does not support 16 bit apps. 

I agree with Bob.  You should check out newer versions of TAM.

TAM Host or TAM 16bit Host, whatever it's called... I AM SO GLAD IT'S GONE! lol

[Jeff Zylstra]

I was on 10.7 until a week ago, and just bought 3 new Windows 7, 64 bit machines.  The 16 bit DOS app that opens along with Homebase and keeps track of which applications are still open in TAM (forget what it's called), can't run in Windows 64 bit because it does not support 16 bit apps. 

I agree with Bob.  You should check out newer versions of TAM.

TAM Host or TAM 16bit Host, whatever it's called... I AM SO GLAD IT'S GONE! lol

Give that man a cheroot!  Yes, that silly utility I think was in charge of telling you to shut down apps or customer screens.  I had issues with apps showing up in TAM Host that you could not see or access to shut down.  Don't know if that was the doing of the app, or of TAM Host, but anytime a DOS app gets replaced, it's a good day.

[Marie (Zionkowski) Gozikowski]

Having TamHost gone sold me... I will upgrade next week.  I hate that darn thing...   

[Bob]

Having TamHost gone sold me... I will upgrade next week.  I hate that darn thing...   

+1 for upgrading! 

[Jan Regnier]

Also confirm your version of MS Office is compatible with TAM "whatever version you upgrade to"

[Jeff Zylstra]

Also confirm your version of MS Office is compatible with TAM "whatever version you upgrade to"

+1 on that too.  I think that Office 2007 or 2010 are your only choices right now.

[Hans Manhave]

Can anyone comment if OfficeXP or 2003 can be installed at the same time as 2007?

I  am not as concerned with the Outlook version, but am concerned with the Excel version.  This would not be as important with using TAM as it would be with all the macros that some of my people have recorded in Excel.  I also don't think I am worried about keeping Word2002/2003 alive any longer.  Just the Excel piece.

Comments?

[Bob]

Inn theory you can Hans but if you do it's not full integrations the API different in some areas.  From what I hear if you use Office 2003 on 11.x and up, works for most part but breaks proposals.   Those who tried got annoyed and became unproductive they conceded up updated.

[Mark Rowe]

Also confirm your version of MS Office is compatible with TAM "whatever version you upgrade to"

+1 on that too.  I think that Office 2007 or 2010 are your only choices right now.

Still using office 2000 on a few stations with no problems.

[Mark]

In not considering a TAM environment, you can have multiple version of Office or Office applications such as Excel installed at the same time, however you can only have one version of Outlook installed at the same time.  I'd suspect for TAM that you could just edit the WINTAM.INI to point at the version of Excel that works best.

[Jeff Golas]

I was on 10.7 until a week ago, and just bought 3 new Windows 7, 64 bit machines.  The 16 bit DOS app that opens along with Homebase and keeps track of which applications are still open in TAM (forget what it's called), can't run in Windows 64 bit because it does not support 16 bit apps. 

I agree with Bob.  You should check out newer versions of TAM.

So if a policy doesn't open properly do they have you open the lid and wiggle the tubes too?? :-)

[Jim Jensen]

I was on 10.7 until a week ago, and just bought 3 new Windows 7, 64 bit machines.  The 16 bit DOS app that opens along with Homebase and keeps track of which applications are still open in TAM (forget what it's called), can't run in Windows 64 bit because it does not support 16 bit apps. 

I agree with Bob.  You should check out newer versions of TAM.

So if a policy doesn't open properly do they have you open the lid and wiggle the tubes too?? :-)

Funny timing on the tubes comment. Yesterday I had to go check on  vacant church building and do some inventory work in it. Found that the organ has tubes in it, just like the old TVs! If those tubes go out, that organ's trash!

[Jeff Zylstra]

I was on 10.7 until a week ago, and just bought 3 new Windows 7, 64 bit machines.  The 16 bit DOS app that opens along with Homebase and keeps track of which applications are still open in TAM (forget what it's called), can't run in Windows 64 bit because it does not support 16 bit apps. 

I agree with Bob.  You should check out newer versions of TAM.

Nah.  Just take the bad tube to the 5 and dime and have it tested!  Seriously, there are still some audiophiles out there that prefer the smoother sound of transistors instead of transistors in stereo equipment and the like.  I have to believe that somewhere on the net that these tubes still exist!

So if a policy doesn't open properly do they have you open the lid and wiggle the tubes too?? :-)

Funny timing on the tubes comment. Yesterday I had to go check on  vacant church building and do some inventory work in it. Found that the organ has tubes in it, just like the old TVs! If those tubes go out, that organ's trash!

[Jeff Golas]

Tubes are very much still being manufactured (Sovtek in Russia I believe is still in business), plus you can find them from dealers on Ebay or online. Local radio enthusiasts usually still have small portable tube checkers around.

I was on 10.7 until a week ago, and just bought 3 new Windows 7, 64 bit machines.  The 16 bit DOS app that opens along with Homebase and keeps track of which applications are still open in TAM (forget what it's called), can't run in Windows 64 bit because it does not support 16 bit apps. 

I agree with Bob.  You should check out newer versions of TAM.

So if a policy doesn't open properly do they have you open the lid and wiggle the tubes too?? :-)

Funny timing on the tubes comment. Yesterday I had to go check on  vacant church building and do some inventory work in it. Found that the organ has tubes in it, just like the old TVs! If those tubes go out, that organ's trash!

[Jim Jensen]

Golas, I had no idea! Good to know.

[Hans Manhave]

I used to repair electronic organs with tubes or solid state.  Made my own little circuit boards with ICs from Radio Shack. Forgot all about how to now. Have a couple books on it as it was a popular subject in the 70/80's.  Even my iPhone has more capacity to play now. There is an app for it: StrandOrgan.  and there is ChurchOrgan.

[Marie (Zionkowski) Gozikowski]

Upgraded to TAM 11.17 with no problems locally ... Office 2003 works fine on all computers.  I do have a separate problem with remote access, but that is for another post :-)